Manufactured Home Plumbing Drainage and Ventilation Issues. Learn how to diagnose and repair poor drainage and other ventilation issues in your homes plumbing system. Issues such as foul odor, gurgling, and slow drainage may be repaired quickly and easily Since plumbers are expensive it pays to learn how to fix plumbing issues yourself. At the very least, understanding more about your homes plumbing system can help you save money when hiring a professional. Learn more about manufactured home plumbing with our article Plumbing In Manufactured Homes The Basics. Note Your state and local plumbing codes will determine the exact requirements that your manufactured home must meet when it comes to plumbing and electricity, additions, foundations, decking, roofingbasically everything. While HUD sets standard manufactured home building codes on a national level, your state and local laws will take precedence. Manufactured Home Vs. Site Built Home Plumbing. There are a few differences between manufactured home and site built home plumbing systems. Plumbing pipes, or lines, are typically placed under a manufactured home and stubbed up through the floor while site built homes usually have their pipes placed inside the walls. Getting to the pipes is much easier in a manufactured home. The drawback is that pipes ran under a mobile home are more prone to freezing but that issue can be easily fixed. Manufactured homes typically do not have clean outs or overflows like a site built home. The lack of clean outs can be troublesome when tackling trunk line blockages technically this is not a mobile home issue, but more of a property preparation issue. Manufactured homes have played an important aspect in the evolution of modern plumbing. New products are often installed on factory built homes long before they make it to the traditional housing market. PEX, a now favorite product of plumbers worldwide, was first tested and used in manufactured homes. The 3 Basic Elements of a Plumbing System All home plumbing systems, whether in a manufactured or site built home, have three main elements supply lines, drainage lines, and ventilation. Your supply lines are completely separate from your drainage and ventilation but your drainage lines and ventilation are typically together. All three of these elements work together if one part of the system is broken the entire system is broken. This video from Home Dept explains how a basic plumbing system works Supply Lines. Supply lines carries water into and throughout your home. Leaks around connections will be your biggest concern with supply lines. Frozen water lines is another big problem that manufactured homeowners face. You can learn how to repair both issues on our manufactured home plumbing basics article. Drainage and Ventilation Lines Drainage lines carry waste water out and away from your home. We explained drainage in our first plumbing article, Plumbing in Manufactured Homes The Basics Drainage lines use gravity, traps and ventilation to ensure the optimum waste removal and keep gases and fumes from building up and releasing. Think of this as a completely closed system with positive and negative vacuum or pressure. All the parts have to work correctly to allow the system to do what it is designed for. Without the proper positive or negative pressure acting as a vacuum in the pipes the waste wont go where its supposed to, it can back flow instead. Diagnosing Poor Drainage and Ventilation Issues. There are a few signs that will clue you into drainage or ventilation issues. Signs of Poorly Vented Plumbing Drain Lines Slow Drainage. Slow waste water drainage is one of the first signs of a ventilation issues. Gurgling. If you hear gurgling come from your drains you likely have poor drainage caused by ventilation issues. Foul Odors. Foul odor can be another sign of poor drainage or ventilation issues. Water Heater Odors. Note Not all foul odors are caused by venting problems. Foul water odor could be coming from your water heater. Missing Water in your Toilet. Nope, the dog probably isnt drinking all the toilet waterSource If you find your toilet is missing its water you may have either a drainage leak or a ventilation problem. Air Bubbles in Your Toilet Water. Seeing or hearing bubbles rise from the toilet bowl is another sign that your drainage system isnt getting enough ventilation. All of these issues can be caused when your drainage system is air locked or when the p traps are emptied of their water due to poor ventilation. Learn more about drainage noises here. If your drain lines leak youll probably be able to tell. Water or dampness under your home is a big clue but foul odors and soggy ground can also be signs. Repairing a drainage line leak is fairly straight forward you find the issue and replace that area. However, if you have determined there is no leak but you are still incurring issues described above you likely have a ventilation problem. Venting Your Drainage Lines. A healthy plumbing system must be able to breath. Think of a drain system as having two elements within the same pipe. The lower part of the pipe is where the waste water goes and the upper part is how the ventilation enters to provide the lower drain lines with proper neutral air pressure. A two liter bottle may help explain this better When pouring soda out of a plastic 2 liter bottle you can see just how important ventilation can be. Turn the bottle completely up, where no air can enter the through opening, and the soda gurgles and slows. If you dont turn the bottle completely up and allow air to enter the soda comes out faster and more smoothly. Thats exactly what proper ventilation does for you drain lines. How do Plumbing Vents Work Why Are they Needed. The venting system equalizes the air pressure throughout the waste piping system. Why does this matter Lets look at four functions of vents. The waste wont flow properly if it cant push the air in the pipe ahead of the waste out of the way. Plumbing vents allow air out of the waste pipes. The waste wont flow well if its held back by low air pressure or a vacuum in the pipe behind it. Vents allow air into the waste pipes. We dont want the water to be siphoned out of the trap every time a fixture is used. Its the water sitting in a plumbing trap that stops sewer gases getting into the home. Vents allow air in to prevent a siphon. Plumbing vents allow sewer odors to escape from the house, venting safely above the roof. Without venting, the sewer gases seep through the water in the trap and enter the house. Vents help sewer gases escape outdoors. Allow building drains to flow freelyby allowing air into the drain system, avoiding the vacuum and slow drainage that would otherwise occur at fixtures. Allow sewer gases to be vented safely outdoors. Because sewer gases may flow back up into the building drain piping from a public sewer or private septic system, and because some sewer gases are included in building waste flowing through the piping, the plumbing vent system needs to carry these gases outside, usually above the building roof, where they are disposed of safely and without leaving unpleasant, or possibly dangerous smells and gases inside the building. Ventilation can be achieved in two ways through proper use of vent stacks and through auto vents. In cases where a pipe cant have its own venting, plumbers use a product called an auto vent, or air admittance valve. Plumbing, Drainage, and Ventilation Terms. Soil Vent Pipes These are the pipes that run vertically from the below ground drainage system to just above your roof gutter level, the SVP allows smells and odours from the drainage system to vent in an area that wont offend anyone and at the same time allows air into the system to prevent siphoning of water from sinks, baths and shower traps. Older systems are typically constructed from cast iron pipe work but we do occasionally come across asbestos type pipe work with modern day systems being constructed from polypropylene. A soil vent pipe SVP or soil stack pipe can be just that, a pipe to vent the system however they would normally be utilised to carry foul waste from upper floor toilets, sinks, baths and showers down to the below ground drainage system. External SVPs are handy when there is no direct access into a drainage system and the gully pot traps are tight and restrictive, by making access into the soil vent pipe you have direct access into the system without the need to pass through a trap. Many modern SVPs have access points fitted and you can buy access doors that can be fitted to the stack after you have made a hole into it to clear the system. On older properties you would tend to have a soil vent pipe that picked up the first floor WC, the waste pipes from the bath and hand basin would discharge into a separate vertical pipe that in turn discharged into a gully at ground level as would the kitchen sink waste pipe, on modern plastic systems both internal and external waste pipes can often connect directly into the SVP Internal Soil Vent Pipes For some reason certain house builders decided that this practical and vital part of the drainage system should be hidden away from view and placed within the property, which is fine when all is working well however when things go wrong major disruption ensues because they are usually boxed into the corner of the kitchen with the kitchen units built around it, so if there is a defect on the stack or the rest bend at its base they can be a sod to get to. Soil vent pipes are often built around when a property is extended which usually means that you will also have a certain amount of below ground drainage beneath the property as well, again this is fine as long as there is suitable access for maintenance but if things do go wrong it can be a big job to sort them out. The worst case scenario is the rest bend at the base of the soil vent pipe collapsing or blocking for one reason or another, if you can not get direct access from a downstream chamber it is common practice to cut into the now blocked and full soil vent pipe. This is a tricky enough operation when outside the property because you are cutting into a vertical blocked pipe and trying not to get covered in the brown stuff at the same time, on an internal SVP its a nightmare and usually time to get the mop buckets out. Many internal soil vent pipes do not actually extend to above the roof line of a property, they finish in the roof space and have an air admittance valve fitted that allows air into the system when required but prevents smells and odours from venting within the property. Air Admittance Valve When an upstairs toilet is flushed a plug of water can be formed as it drops down the soil vent pipe, this plug of water can momentarily leave a vacuum behind it as it drops unless there is a sufficient air flow through the system. The vacuum will empty internal sink, bath and shower traps leaving a direct vent into the property. As most properties have external soil vent pipes that vent above the eaves this is not an issue however internal SVPs often finish beneath the roof line and an air admittance valve is fitted. The spring loaded valve opens to allow air into the system when required but remains closed and air tight for the remainder of the time in order to prevent internal venting, they can also be used in en suite bathrooms and additional washrooms when it is not practical to either connect into the existing SVP or to install a new one. These valves are for internal use only as they fail when subject to a heavy frost of freezing weather, they are also known to occasionally fail in loft and roof spaces due to a build of of dust or insulation fibres within the valve itself but they can be easily dismantled and cleaned before being replaced. Drainage Stub Stack A stub stack would be typically found where an additional downstairs WC has been installed and it is often easier to bring the pipe work through the external wall then excavate the floor inside the property, it is always prudent to install some kind of access point on a stack and the one shown allows access into the drainage system and also direct access to the back of the pan should a blockage ever occur. The image to the right shows a sub stack that serves a toilet only, if a waste pipe from a hand basin was connected to the pipe work an air admittance valve would be required inside the property. We do find air admittance valves fitted externally but they are prone to failing during heavy frosts and freezing weather and it is not generally recommended. What Can Go Wrong With A Soil Vent Pipe Theres not much that can go wrong with a soil vent pipe in itself other than the wife knocking it off the gable wall when reversing onto the drive, plumbers have been known to push a waste pipe too far into a SVP causing the odd blockage. Air admittance valves can and do fail due to dust, fibres and frost if installed outside and kids like to drop things down them like stones, twigs, branches and tennis balls when they can access a flat roof at a school. The most common problem related to soil vent pipes is the 9. SVP failing, this is usually due to poor installation along with the constant pounding of waste water hitting it over many years. Once there has been movement and water loss from the bend the problem accelerates as the pipe work is undermined, this leads to stepped and displaced joints and sometimes a complete collapse of the bend itself. The image to the right shows the base of a SVP where the rest bend has settled leaving a gap between the cast stack pipe and the below ground vitrified clay pipe work, the sand and cement haunching around the base of the SVP is always a dead give away that something is amiss. Replacing A Soil Vent Pipe The original cast iron soil vent pipes can corrode over time and need replacing, they are prone to impact damage and often people just want to move them as part of new build works around the house. We tend to install plastic soil vent pipes these days and they come in gray and black and the plastic is designed to withstand all that nature can throw at it including sunlight unlike below ground drainage pipes which we often see used as a cheaper alternative. Cast iron pipe work is still available for period and listed properties and many salvage and reclamation yards can supply original pipe work. The old cast iron pipes are extremely heavy and dismantling a soil vent is a specialist job with all kinds of health and safety implications not to mention the damage a falling pipe can do to your windows, car and driveway, when moving or installing a new SVP consideration should be given to how this will affect the opening of windows and air flow from bathroom extraction fans and heating and gas appliance vents.